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Re: Tonneau

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:37 pm
by KenHurst
Brilliant. Thanks Dave.

Re: Tonneau

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:27 am
by deeandmartin
Hi and welcome to the forum, we had a 535 and did quite a lot of work on her before moving on to our 570. Have a look in the gallery section under Golden Days 535 I included quite a bit of detail on what we used paint wise as well as a stack of other info. Hope it helps, good luck, Dee

Paint

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:35 am
by KenHurst
Thanks Dee; nice job. I am also grateful for Simon Poll's 535 restoration story on this site; it is truly awe inspiring. Within it he passes on the following advice from a paint technician: "....... if the topsides have been painted before then you need to know what type of paint was used as you cannot apply two pack over one pack. If the topsides have not been painted before I would recommend applying two coats of Perfection Undercoat, followed by two coats of Perfection Finish. If you do not want to use two pack paints or the topsides have been painted and you cannot establish what with then apply two coats of Pre-Kote(undercoat) and two coats of Toplac or Brightside."
As my 535 has been repainted with who-knows-what by a previous unknown owner, the last mentioned solution seems spot on for me. Anyone disagree?
One more naive question from me: As I intend to use her on fresh water, must I antifoul once I've power-hosed her clean?

Re: Tonneau

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:16 am
by deeandmartin
Regarding painting, I checked with international the manufacturers for advice and ended up wet and drying then undercoating and top coating, which worked for us, it was only the hull which was painted and I hand painted her carefully. I also requested advice on the anti foul as ours had been used on Windermere and was painted with the 'shedding' type of anti foul which was a real pain as every time we launched or recovered we got covered in the stuff! Again they advised a good coat of anti foul undercoat and anti foul over the top. I scraped any loose stuff off first obviously but it worked well, we've done the same with the 570 and just tidy it up each year before putting her back on the water. We are trailer gypsies so do rivers, lakes and coastal, having seen the state of the hull after several weeks on the river it certainly seems to protect the hull although not everyone would possibly feel it is quite as necessary, ours were already painted with anti foul so we have just continued to do the same, hope that helps, cheers, Dee

Re: Tonneau

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:25 pm
by Paulsjenny
Hi , iv got a 535 that I'm restoring and I have just bought 6 fender that are 19ins long and a bow fender , sorry cant help with the paint as mine has the original gel coat so for me it's just a good t cut but good luck with yours .

Did you buy yours from eBay ?

Good choice of boat by the way ;)

Re: Tonneau

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:37 pm
by KenHurst
Sure did, even tho the vendor turned out to be just down the road. BTW, I bet you're the one who outbid me for those fenders! ;-)
Oh, and wish me luck for my safety cert and sound hull inspections on Thursday.

Re: Tonneau

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:01 pm
by Paulsjenny
No I bought my fenders from force 4 in Bristol so not me :)

I already had my boat but was watching your as well as others just to see what they were going for and condition of them all , bit anal of me really but hay ho ! :D

Is the safety cert and hull inspection Something i should be getting done also , what is your reason for you, getting it done ?

Good luck by the way :D

Re: Tonneau

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:43 pm
by moiboidan
paulsjenny, i think the safety cert, is only relevant for rivers and waterways.

Re: Tonneau

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:39 pm
by Paulsjenny
moiboidan wrote:paulsjenny, i think the safety cert, is only relevant for rivers and waterways.
Oh ok , as I'm out to sea I'm ok then :D

Thank you

Re: Tonneau

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:24 am
by Deaks
Hi Ken

I've been researching the paint issue for several weeks as I intend to paint my Black Hawk.
By no means an expert but I can share my findings so far.
Since Christmas I've spent about 40 hours sanding the paint off. Topsides was white and the hull red, but had an absolutely terrible paint job - it looked like it had been daubed on with a toothbrush.
I'm very nearly finished sanding. Topsides is in amazing condition, so much so that I was tempted to simply polish up the gelcoat. But Gill, the boss(!) is set on white so that's settled, then.
The hull is another matter. I'm glad I elected to strip all the paint because there are one or two largish gashes down there which have been repaired but were porous. I've removed the previous repairs, re-glassed the offending areas from the inside (by cutting a hatch in the floatation tank) and will fill the outside in a day or two.
The above is important because it's affected my choice of paint. Topsides I'll be using 2k paint. This is fine as long as you sand right down to the gelcoat. If you intend to paint over existing paint, 2k could react, so stick to 1k. My hull, though, needs all the help it can get and I'll be using Interprotect, a 2k paint which is supposed to give some added strength to tired gelcoat. No doubt other manufacturers make a similar product. This is used as a base for undercoat, not instead of.
The magazine 'Practical Boat Owner' are painting a project boat and some of their input has been useful. It's all on their website if you care to look.
The only positive thing I can say about sanding is that at least it's cheap. Sanding discs don't cost much. Unfortunately I think I see big expenditure on the horizon, though.............

Deaks

(PS; When Fortune is completely stripped I'll post a picture. And have a beer.)