Hi everyone, I've been toying with the idea of buying a small cabin cruiser for quite a while now and have been looking more seriously into it lately, I am currently looking at a Shetland 570. I have been reading my way through this forum and have learned a lot, however I still have a couple of questions, 1 is there such thing as a safety certificate that I should look for when buying...? 2 will the insurance companies ask for such a thing...?
I am in northern Ireland and hope to be boating on lough neagh, thanks.
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Boat Safety certificates are required by River and canal authorites before they will issue with a licence but not by Insurance companies - strangely enough. A BSC is really to ensure that your craft is safe to use on confined waters. If you are based purely at sea as we are, there is no need for a safety certificate. If the boat you are looking at has one, it is only concerned really with safe cooking facilities, safe battery useage, and fuel storage, it will not guarentee your boat is water worthy.
We have written a guide to boat buying which you will find in this forum and in the reference section. Have a good read of it first.
The 570 is a cracking little boat and you will love her ( We also own one)
Please ask any question - nothing is too trivial
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Boat Safety certificates are required by River and canal authorites before they will issue with a licence but not by Insurance companies - strangely enough. A BSC is really to ensure that your craft is safe to use on confined waters. If you are based purely at sea as we are, there is no need for a safety certificate. If the boat you are looking at has one, it is only concerned really with safe cooking facilities, safe battery useage, and fuel storage, it will not guarentee your boat is water worthy.
We have written a guide to boat buying which you will find in this forum and in the reference section. Have a good read of it first.
The 570 is a cracking little boat and you will love her ( We also own one)
Please ask any question - nothing is too trivial
Sue - Admin
There is NOTHING--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats.
Kenneth Grahame
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Thanks for the welcome,
I'll have a good read at that for sure.
Rob.
I'll have a good read at that for sure.
Rob.
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Just saw a shetland 610 for sale near me, must go have a look at it, it seems from the pics that the cabin is bigger than the 570, is this the case...?
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Hi Rob
If you look in the library Section on this site you can compare most of the Shetland range. The 610 has more head room than a 570 and is an altogether bigger boat . However it is to wide for some (not most) of the inland waterways locks. It also has a v shaped hull as the 570 is a gullwing so it really depends on what you intend to use it for .
Good luck finding the right boat
Glen
If you look in the library Section on this site you can compare most of the Shetland range. The 610 has more head room than a 570 and is an altogether bigger boat . However it is to wide for some (not most) of the inland waterways locks. It also has a v shaped hull as the 570 is a gullwing so it really depends on what you intend to use it for .
Good luck finding the right boat
Glen
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Hi glen, thanks for that, I've had a look at the library and can see that the 610 is indeed a bigger boat, I will be using the boat on a lough so no worries about width, is the 570 more stable than the 610...?
Rob.
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The 570 has a V hull designed for planning. She is designed for high speed ( we have had 25 knots out of ours) we are marine based so she is ideal. We have also run her at low sped on canals and rivers, still no problems other than she has sloped sides not suitable for steep lock walls. we have now got plenty of fenders. we have full headroom in our cockpit due to bespoke canopy. The 610/620/640 has full headroom in the cabin BUT is more flat sided and bottomed more suitable for shallow esturires. you need to work out what you want your boat to do other than zoom around, ie cooking, sleeping etc
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My first instinct was to buy a 570, so I'll stick to that. Trying insurance companies today, have already been in touch with the marina manager, looks like it's going to happen 
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Hi Sue
It pains me to disagree but I am quite sure the 610’s hull is described as a V shaped hull and the 570 has a gull wing hull which is flatter on the bottom. It does however as you say make it very stable at most speeds and easier to get on the plain because it is pushing less water. I once considered changing my 570 for a Shetland Saxon which is basically a narrow beam 4+2 with a V shaped hull, but the first time I stood on one in the water I was put off because it had more rock & roll than Elvis due to the more rounded V shaped hull. The shape of a gull wing hull tends to try and push the water down when you step on the side of the boat as it is concave under each side like a gulls wing, as opposed to rolling like the displacement or V shaped hull. I believe what I am saying is correct looking at the literature in the library but I stand to be corrected if you disagree.
Rob
I insure my boat with “craft insure” online , They were very helpful when my boat was smashed up by a narrow boat and at less than £100 a year I think reasonably cheap as well.
Best regards to all.
Glen
Ps. The 570 would be my choice
It pains me to disagree but I am quite sure the 610’s hull is described as a V shaped hull and the 570 has a gull wing hull which is flatter on the bottom. It does however as you say make it very stable at most speeds and easier to get on the plain because it is pushing less water. I once considered changing my 570 for a Shetland Saxon which is basically a narrow beam 4+2 with a V shaped hull, but the first time I stood on one in the water I was put off because it had more rock & roll than Elvis due to the more rounded V shaped hull. The shape of a gull wing hull tends to try and push the water down when you step on the side of the boat as it is concave under each side like a gulls wing, as opposed to rolling like the displacement or V shaped hull. I believe what I am saying is correct looking at the literature in the library but I stand to be corrected if you disagree.
Rob
I insure my boat with “craft insure” online , They were very helpful when my boat was smashed up by a narrow boat and at less than £100 a year I think reasonably cheap as well.
Best regards to all.
Glen
Ps. The 570 would be my choice
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Hi glen, I'll try craft insure, hope they cover northern Ireland, most don't...! The 610 I was after is now sold anyway. Thanks for the info.
By the way, nobody or no thing has more rock and roll than elvis....
Rob.
By the way, nobody or no thing has more rock and roll than elvis....
Rob.